WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Mike Oxsaw 7:01 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
subcutaneous 2:30 Sun Jan 17

That's more a work-around than a solution though (but at least she gets a modicum of relief, so I'm not totally panning it).

I did suggest earlier that stress could be an issue is insomnia and that it reveals itself in many forms. Maybe something's been chewing away at her sub-consciousness for years (so long that she may not even be aware it's not natural - and it's certainly no fault of hers).

Maybe a chat will weedle it out of her - if it is stress related. I'm NOT suggesting therapy, just more conversation (as opposed to, say TV or internet leisure time) - plus a bit of Miss Marple on your part.

stewey 6:40 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
I think ive got insomnia , but im not going to loose any sleep worrying about it tho

subcutaneous 2:30 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
bruuuno,

The wife has insomnia. It's really bad. Every now and again, she will take two 7.5mg tablets of Zopyclone. She will sleep solidly for 12 hours. This gives her the strength to cope with the insomnia for a few more weeks, then repeats the sleeping tablet route.

The Kronic 2:10 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
On weekdays I have a spliff before bed and rarely have any problems with sleep. Why would people give up God's herb for the Devil's prescription pills?

bruuuno 1:51 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia

subcutaneous 1:44 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia


I found the same, took 2-3 months after quitting for my sleep to get back to normal. I would only advise using it to people as an absolute last resort. Just curious why you think it would be better to take zopyclone?

GreenStreetPlayer 1:46 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
As you talk to people about this subject, it's surprising how many are affected by bad sleep, and all have a different story to tell.
As you get older that can be a trigger for receiving less sleep, and it happens overnight.
Personally have been struggling for over 4 years and had all sorts of tests, but nothing found. Been on sleeping tablets which make you feel so out of it next day that it's best not to take them to be able to function still.
As a latest, I have just realised and probably had this for a long time thinking it was wax in the ears but have tinnitus where there is no cure and a constant ringing noise in the head. Doctor said try nytol which have been taking for a couple of weeks now and fingers crossed letting me have a good 4 hours sleep.

Best of luck with this as there are many suggestions what to do, but certain sleep problem cures work for only some, and you have to try and find something that works for you.

subcutaneous 1:44 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
I smoked cannabis for years and I slept like a baby on it. When I stopped, I found getting to sleep at night difficult for a very long time.

I would never recommend an insomniac to start having a spliff before they went to bed. It will work, but your sleeping pattern will be royally fucked when you stop.

Ask your GP for some Zopyclone. It's an addictive sleeping tablet that should be used sparingly.

bruuuno 1:44 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
Nurse - an important distinction must be made that cannabis isn't a drug, it is a herb. Don't mean to sound like some sort of hippy but it's true. Which is why I would consider its use preferable compared to actual drugs such as valium etc

bruuuno 1:41 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
The problem with cannabis is people take it in doses so high that the side effects end up outweighing the benefits. They smoke a fat joint of skunk and have a panic attack and never touch it again. For someone who's never really smoked it a tenners worth will last a few weeks if you just put a tiny bit in a spliff or pipe before bed.

Nurse Ratched 1:37 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
I expect it has useful medical applications. And side effects. Just like other drugs. Steroids, antibiotics, thalidomide. Etc.

i-Ron 1:34 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
I watched a good programme with scientists who were fanboys of cannabis in medical science.

Although I don't think they were stoners.

penners28 1:30 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
On the bright side, only 10 sleeps until xmas!

Nurse Ratched 1:17 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
Not everybody enjoys cannabis. I have taken most drugs and cannabis was by far my least favourite. Horrible stuff. Would never do it again. Jury's out on whether it's 'harmless', too. I expect it carries risks just as all drugs and medicines do. Cannabis fanboys are irritating sometimes.

bruuuno 12:37 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
Both works best!

Noah 12:37 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
or a furious wank?

bruuuno 12:35 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
Seriously if people are suffering this bad just buy some weed and have a tiny spliff before bed. It's not going to cause you to kill all your family it's just a plant. Hospital for insomnia! Unreal

zico 12:32 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
Feel your pain. I'm under the Dr regarding Insomnia as well (not literally under the Doctor obviously). Something just keeps waking me up just as I drop off and I wake up startled and then can't drop off again until maybe 4-6am.

Was diagnosed with mild sleep apnoea a couple of years ago when I slept on my back so sleeping on my side helped but recently I had severe vertigo so I thought maybe I had put on weight and the apnoea was back as I obviously wasn't as active as usual. Had a sleep test done at hospital and no evidence of apnoea all even though it took me 3 hours to fall asleep. Most bizarre and I don't see the consultant again until mid Feb.

Can only drop off using sleeping tablets but you feel drowsy using those anyway and after three months it is catching up with me. My GP has put me on Amitriptyline to help both the vertigo and Insomnia but tried one last night and tossed and turned until about 4am. The good thing though was nothing startled me as much as I can remember. The problem is sleeping tablets can create rebound Insomnia because once you are relying on something to get to sleep if you don't have that crutch to rely on sleeping naturally plays on your mind.

All started overnight as well. One night I slept fine then I haven't had a decent nights sleep since. Might ask the consultant about UARS which is similar to Sleep Apnoea and see if that is part of it.

The plus side I could drop off easily after a skin full, maybe I should start drinking again!!

Darby_ 12:09 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
I found Watson Rugby brand melatonin good too. Other brands weren't as effective for me, but might be for someone else.

Charoo 12:02 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
Struggled with this badly for years, was under the hospital for it.

At the moment I have got much more of a routine, up a 5.45, gym first thing, work a decent day, try get some walking and air in during the day.

By the time I get in the feather at between 10-11 I'm ready to go a kip.

Also an hour before bed a milk protein shake, then half hour before 2 zma tablets (zinc and magnesium with vitamin b6) helps me sleep right through.

TCHammer444 11:51 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
get a new mattress, I got one off this site, www.dormeo.co.uk, the other week the Wife and I are reaping the benefits.

Sleep and...ahem

:^) 11:47 Sun Jan 17
Re: Insomnia
Stress can't be my problem. I'm the least stressed person I know. If there was a competition for the least stressed person, I'd not even care to remember to compete.

I'm guessing I've slept so well for so long I've almost cured myself of the need.

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